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I have to admit that I am still astonished; the following paragraph is really interesting: It was agreed that RSD would change its name to International Radio Sailing Association (IRSA), thus removing the anomaly of “Division”. IRSA would remain at this stage an ISAF Affiliate Member. It was agreed ...

No yet, but you will be informed as everybody else, at least, 8 weeks before the AGM.

According with the minute of the last AGM the job of the Exec was:

“Task incoming IOMICA Exec with investigating affiliating with ISAF as an international class. The Exec will bring these data to the WC for discussion and vote prior to a final commitment regarding ISAF affiliationâ€

Hi Roy648, When I said we I was thinking in the Exec and NZL RSD of course. I agree with you that YNZ is probably one of the most successful NMAs by head of population, although if you have a look to the Sailing Medal Tally in the last Olympics http://www.sailing.org/olympics/ and then you make the ...

Hi Roy648, Regarding your post of October 23th. I would like to make the following comments: First, it is true that probably the type of affiliation between the NCAs or the DMs and the MNA may be different from country to country, but if you realized that this could be a problem for the IOM owners o...

Hi Roy 648,

I consider that your last post is very interesting. Do you know of any other NCA or DM NCA that is in the same situation than NZL RYA?

Hi Ole,

Thanks for your support. If you have any doubt about the voting process please send me an email.

Alphonso: I strongly agree with you that the heads of those NCAs that have raised questions and concerns about the current direct affiliation between ISAF and IOMICA should reach out to the IOMICA Executive and try to find a path forward. I also think it is the obligation of the IOMICA Executive to...

Bruce, WE ARE NOT IN A RUSH. As I have said before we have had time enough for debate (3 months I think is fine), but the truth is that we are reading the same arguments since the beginning of August and we could stay like that one or two years more. I think that those who do not want to affiliate I...

However, I believe that with enough time and an open and responsive attitude from the Executive virtually all of the open questions and issues being raised could be resolved. There is not open questions, all the relevant information is available. This is funny, everybody should start reading this p...

Hi Ken,

Don't worry about ISAF they are already adviced.

I have answered all your questions but you are the only one who has not give any explanation. I am still waiting.

Hi Ken, I think I have answered your first question but I will try again. The situation was that nobody was standing for candidate on any position of the RSD PC at the end of July and beginning of August and an e mail from the RSD secretary was remembering to all the DMs that the deadline for such a...

Alphonso, I think you owe IOM owners an explanation. Hi Ken, I think that you haven't read the document that I mentioned in a previous post because the explanation is in one of the first paragraphs. In any case, why don't you explain us why you and the rest of the future members of the RSD PC wait ...

Dear Tony, First of all I want to tell you that I appreciate you and consider like a very honest person, but I have read some comments in the MYA forum that I would like to answer and as I can not do it in that forum I will do it here. Most of the questions have been answered in the document that we...

Hi RoyL, Please find below the answer to your questions: First: Yes, there will be an agreement, as there is an agreement between ISAF RSD and IOMICA. The draft of this agreement is not available yet and I do not think owners will need to vote on this topic because there are very little room for man...

RoyL, If owners decide to affiliate ISAF our Constitution will read as follow: 3.2 In furtherance of these objects the IOM ICA shall: 3.2.3 Promulgate and review the IOM Class Rules, in association with the ISAF. Now we have to read ISAF Regulations 26.11 to know what ISAF says about Class Rules cha...

Hi Val, Thank you for your comments. I understand that you are concerned because being an international class recognized by ISAF can have some costs, specially those regarding the International Measurer as it has been explained in this document http://www.iomclass.org/exec/isaf/IOM_in_ISAF_Discussio...

I don't see any downside to waiting and getting a complete understanding of what we are signing on for and allowing the various national authorities time to have full discussions and solicit votes from their members Roy, I don't think we are running, it is true that we had to run a little bit to fu...

4. I do think it is appropriate to hear from our class leaders as to their opinion of what they think are the advantages and disadvantages of direct ISAF affiliation for IOMICA. Particularly how they view the "consequences" of the rights and obligations imposed and granted by such a relationship. ....

RoyL, I do not think it is necessary to publish the e mail because it is as simple as the two paragraphs I quoted you and there is no possibility of any kind of mistakes because as you can see I quoted the question and the answer. I gave you the position of the person who answers us, but if you want...

Dear Roy648, We passed your doubts to ISAF and below this lines I copy you the answers of the Technical Co-Ordinator: [quote]A. An international Jury appointed either by the Class or ISAF? As per the current situation it is the organising authority responsibility to appoint the Jury in accordance wi...

Hi RoyL,

Please as I have said in a previous post the jury issue does not add anything to the question whether IOM should join ISAF, because if we stay in RSD the “problemâ€

I do not want to repeat what others have said just I would like to highlight three ideas: First, the process of applying to join ISAF doesn’t looks like a zoco where you bargain three International Juries instead of five or two members in the classes committee instead one and so one. ISAF means hi...

This is amazing, the Exec has not taken any decision about ISAF, we just did what the owners asked us to do in the last AGM and we have done it quickly. Now the problem is that we are too fast? Don’t you see that we are in the best possible situation? Now the application is in ISAF hands so if the...

Still looking for an explanation of the pros and cons of asking for ISAF membership now or waiting a year... Sorry Roy but my access to internet is very limited during August. Let me try to answer your question. When we decide to apply for ISAF recognition (beginning of August) the last news we had...

Bruce wrote:a per boat fee for new hulls of 0.4% of the cost of the hull for new boats only - existing hulls (including those that change owners) are exempt

ISAF has just confirmed me that the fee per boat will be 5,20 GBP, and as Bruce has said only new boats after the first of January 2010 will have to pay.

Dear owners, As you would have seen we have already send the application form to join ISAF. As Barry has already explained in the official communication we will only join ISAF if the class decide so in the next Special Meeting of the World Council that will be called soon, but we had to give that st...

This thread started with a RoyL’s post which brought to the light three interesting proposals:

First, the idea of changing the vote system for “one owner/one voteâ€

Dear owners, this is a passage of the post I have just wrote in the World Council forum: The second question to solve the second problem is how the Executive Committee should solve this situation? Well, this is the real heart of the problem and in this case we do not have two more questions but two ...

The longer, louder and more public this debate becomes the worse it will be for all of us. Unless we find an amicable resolution of this matter that satisfies all candidates, we will likely face years of disputes and bad feelings from any imposed solution. You are right. If Bruce agree with me I th...

Ken,

Thanks to Barry, I know that the Exec has found some useful information, that will help to solve the situation, but I prefer that someone of the Exec makes it public.