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- 26 Oct 2009, 16:09
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 158194
- 26 Oct 2009, 05:58
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 158194
Just to end this little dialogue--what I am actually saying is: (i) that it is likely that all IOM sailors in the United States who want to participate in a US Sailing sanctioned IOM race will have to spend $60 per year to join US Sailing (unless, of course, Brig North volunteers to pay it for them ...
- 25 Oct 2009, 21:52
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 158194
Actually, US Sailing regulations currently require that in a US Sailing Championship all members from the US must be US Sailing members. Current membership fee is approximately $60 (I think) each year. Assuming (per Brig) thirty IOM sailors will have to join US Sailing that is $1800 total per year. ...
- 25 Oct 2009, 02:13
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 158194
Barry: RoyG's explanation is pretty close to how things operate in the United States also. AMYA is affiliated with US Sailing and our r/c class nationals are sanctioned as AMYA Annual Class Championship Regattas. I'm not sure if AMYA is regularly communicating with US Sailing and I have no idea what...
- 24 Oct 2009, 01:11
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 158194
- 23 Oct 2009, 16:53
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 158194
Now I have to disagree (what a surprise, lol)--I do not think the question before our class is one of philosophy, it is solely about practicality. The issue I believe is what are the costs, benefits, and concerns raised by the current deal on the table with ISAF. The largest NCA's and some very well...
- 22 Oct 2009, 20:57
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 158194
Alphonso: I strongly agree with you that the heads of those NCAs that have raised questions and concerns about the current direct affiliation between ISAF and IOMICA should reach out to the IOMICA Executive and try to find a path forward. I also think it is the obligation of the IOMICA Executive to ...
- 22 Oct 2009, 08:40
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 158194
I have to say I am extremely disappointed in how IOMICA's possible direct affiliation with ISAF has been handled. I have always believed it is the job of the IOMICA Executive to put aside personal beliefs and desires and act in a manner that will best enhance the growth, stability and future of our ...
- 09 Oct 2009, 06:14
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 158194
Barry: I agree with you that continuing to have IOMICA report to RSD is very problematic. I have never been comfortable with RSD having a veto power over the wishes of the membership of the IOM class. In particular I was very troubled by the recent, unelected RSD Technical head trying to tell IOMICA...
- 28 Sep 2009, 00:30
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 158194
Jan: You are right. Val did seem to shorthand the ISAF decision making process. It would seem that the paid ISAF staff and National Authorities and others can make recommendations to Committees, and Committees can make recommendations and proposals to the Council and the ISAF Council is the final de...
- 20 Sep 2009, 16:35
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 158194
Barry: Like you, I think it's really important that we have an election with a strong turn out that gives an accurate reflection of the class members' wishes. I was a little surprised therefore that the Exec didn't opt for a later meeting date to give the NCAs more time to put together comprehensive...
- 18 Sep 2009, 14:34
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 158194
Barry: Pursuant to Section 4.9 of the Class Regulations, four weeks before any Special Meeting of the World Council, each NCA is required to provide specific, not general information for the upcoming vote. I believe a detailed list including individual owner name and boat registration numbers is req...
- 17 Sep 2009, 16:18
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 158194
- 15 Sep 2009, 17:24
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 158194
I'm not trying to make this overly complicated, but this is probably the most importantly decision IOMICA has to make. I think it is essential for all of us to fully understand all of the issues and to take the time and effort to get it right from the start. Contrary to Alfonso's prior response, I b...
- 14 Sep 2009, 23:33
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 158194
Alfonso: Thanks for the answer, but the more I look at the ISAF rules and regulations the more confused I get. First, ISAF rules, Section 26, seems to say that a formal agreement between a prospective class and ISAF must be signed. Is this correct? Is there a draft of this agreement? Does IOMICA nee...
- 12 Sep 2009, 19:13
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 158194
All right, let's try to look at it this way---today, if IOMICA wants to change its rules or has a technical question it is subject to review and approval of RSD. RSD can even over ride a vote of all of our members. I've never liked this set up. If we become directly affiliated with ISAF does this ch...
- 11 Sep 2009, 16:52
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 158194
Excuse me please!!! How does taking notice of the fact that in the ISAF organization chart the person we are dealing with is in a very junior position become a "slur and attack" plus "uncalled for, unjustified, cretinous, loathesome" etc. I raised the point initially because in thirty years of exper...
- 10 Sep 2009, 23:07
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 158194
Doesn't it presume a little to suggest that the IOMICA discussion document as put forth by the Executive "summarises everything the membership needs for its evaluation"? Is it possible that there might be a few other questions people might legitimately have? As I mentioned earlier, I, for example, w...
- 10 Sep 2009, 15:55
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 158194
But, we keep being told that by joining ISAF we will get a "vote" and a "seat at the table". Membership on the Classes Committee, which then has selected representatives sit on the ISAF Council (not likely IOMICA), isn't quite that. At least for me, the more I look at the ISAF website and their publ...
- 10 Sep 2009, 04:52
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 158194
I did another quick look at the ISAF website. Sections 81 and 82 of the ISAF Constitution seems to read that as an independent class we would not be entitled to a vote in the ISAF general assembly and be entitled to representation on ISAF committees only as permitted by ISAF regulations. Has somethi...
- 03 Sep 2009, 06:40
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 158194
I have recently spent some time looking through the ISAF website. A few things sort of jumped out at me. First, it appears that a class when it is affiliated with ISAF (although entitled to attend ISAF meetings) is specifically not entitled to voting rights. Anyone know if this is correct? Second, i...
- 28 Aug 2009, 22:58
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 158194
Alfonso: Both on the link you posted and in the link on the home page, the document you reference, (at least on my Mac), is blank. Am I doing something wrong? Update: Not sure what happened; the document is now viewable. Might have been a firewall problem. BTW, could someone identify who was the aut...
- 28 Aug 2009, 21:33
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 158194
- 28 Aug 2009, 16:54
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 158194
Jan: Since you asked, a few questions raised by your post: 1. What is the current relationship between RSD and ISAF? It has been implied by some here that one of the reasons we must join with ISAF immediately is because RSD is going to be dissolved by ISAF. However, the ISAF website still lists RSD ...
- 28 Aug 2009, 04:26
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 158194
I believe that in order to make an informed decision it is important to know all of the terms and conditions of the proposed affiliation of IOMICA with ISAF. It would also be nice to hear the positives and negatives of this proposed agreement in the view of our class leaders as asked on this forum. ...
- 20 Aug 2009, 21:59
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 158194
Alfonso: I just reviewed the ISAF website. According to that site, all ISAF decisions are made by volunteer committees of the organization usually as part of an annual general assembly. The site also states that there is a small staff of paid employees who are described as answering member questions...
- 20 Aug 2009, 17:02
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 158194
- 20 Aug 2009, 01:45
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 158194
Alfonso: It would be very helpful if the Executive makes available on the open board to the entire membership the full letter sent and the entire reply received from ISAF. It also would be nice to know the name of the person who responded to us. I think this is important, because unfortunately I bel...
- 19 Aug 2009, 15:57
- Forum: Events and Event Management
- Topic: IOM World Championshipe 2011
- Replies: 3
- Views: 5555
- 16 Aug 2009, 17:50
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 158194
Robert: No "Roy vs. Lester" issues going on here. Read you own posts. You have stated that you believe discussions (such as judges at major r/c races) "may be closed". You have virtually demanded that you be told "problems" that NCAs may have with immediate ISAF affiliation. You have lectured us for...