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by Barry Fox CAN262
18 Nov 2009, 22:58
Forum: Events and Event Management
Topic: IOM European Championships 2010 => FRA Pierrelatte
Replies: 41
Views: 39795

I try not to be negative but there comes a time when I just can't help it. Those who do know me should be able to confirm that I go to fairly great lengths to find the bright side but having most every word criticized to a great extent makes you want to firstly not answer and secondly tends to make ...
by Barry Fox CAN262
18 Nov 2009, 06:48
Forum: Events and Event Management
Topic: IOM European Championships 2010 => FRA Pierrelatte
Replies: 41
Views: 39795

As you surely understand Roy, there is something of a hierarchy built into this organization. If a class association (not just this one or just this sport/hobby) wants to canvass its constituents, it has the vehicle at its disposal in the World Council. Each and every World Council member (you have ...
by Barry Fox CAN262
01 Nov 2009, 18:14
Forum: General IOM
Topic: IOM in ISAF
Replies: 198
Views: 159418

The meeting has been closed and the results tabulated. The full results will be posted on the web page shortly. Three NCAs did not submit Owner Lists by the time limit imposed. Of the 21 NCAs eligible to submit votes, 20 submitted their vote counts by the deadline of 11:59 PM, PDT, October 31. All 6...
by Barry Fox CAN262
24 Oct 2009, 21:38
Forum: General IOM
Topic: IOM in ISAF
Replies: 198
Views: 159418

Hi Roy, Please don't take this as trying to pick holes in your description of teh situation. I'm trying to undersatand it. If NZRYA can't authorize a National Championship now, then how has that happened before? Have you applied to YNZ and gotten approval/sanction to do so? Just trying to see how th...
by Barry Fox CAN262
23 Oct 2009, 20:03
Forum: General IOM
Topic: IOM in ISAF
Replies: 198
Views: 159418

The only thing I am going to address here is the voting procedure. Some folks keep wanting to bring up the thought that the current Exec has somehow contrived the voting method to suit their purpose. The only purpose in stating what the procedure will be is to make sure that all of the different rul...
by Barry Fox CAN262
22 Oct 2009, 21:20
Forum: General IOM
Topic: IOM in ISAF
Replies: 198
Views: 159418

I have kind of vowed to myself to try to stay out of the discussion but at times I just can't resist. I’m going to try to take a (hopefully) slightly different look at one of the issues that seems to keep popping up. The one that says we should stick together under RSD. There is always some merit ...
by Barry Fox CAN262
09 Oct 2009, 06:59
Forum: General IOM
Topic: IOM in ISAF
Replies: 198
Views: 159418

Thanks Roy, For the most part I am trying not to get into my personal preferences as, in the end, they don't matter. It is the desire of the class that matters. I am but one small part of it. I appreciate the response you have offered here as it is about as good a description as anyone has supplied ...
by Barry Fox CAN262
08 Oct 2009, 21:41
Forum: General IOM
Topic: IOM in ISAF
Replies: 198
Views: 159418

This is my personal opinion only so please put away the “paint all the Executive with the same brushâ€
by Barry Fox CAN262
05 Oct 2009, 07:59
Forum: General IOM
Topic: IOM in ISAF
Replies: 198
Views: 159418

As you might guess, there isn't much in the way of guidance for whatever has gone before. But that said, the answer is yes. I'll get them formatted out of the spreadsheet I am going ot use and hopefully have them up tomorrow sometime.
by Barry Fox CAN262
05 Oct 2009, 05:37
Forum: General IOM
Topic: IOM in ISAF
Replies: 198
Views: 159418

Hopefully this doesn't spur on some odd discussion but. . . . You may be interested to know: - 21 out of 24 possible NCAs returned Owner lists - Those 21 countries represent 2299 potential voters within their own boundaries. - Those 21 counties represent 75 available votes at the World Council level...
by Barry Fox CAN262
30 Sep 2009, 07:43
Forum: Class Associations and Class Management
Topic: New NCAs Approved
Replies: 5
Views: 9749

New NCAs Approved

The IOM ICA is pleased to welcome two new NCAs to the association. Formal applications have been received from Belgium (BEL) and Chile (CHI) that meet the requirements for NCA status. Notice of the applications has been posted on the World Council section of the Forum for comment for the required 4 ...
by Barry Fox CAN262
30 Sep 2009, 07:17
Forum: General IOM
Topic: IOM in ISAF
Replies: 198
Views: 159418

To reinforce Olivier's comment, Antonio is NOT an Executive member. Somehow the comments this issue has developed have at times and too often become nothing but personal slurs. I have no issue about adopting a hard line either for or against any proposals but as soon as you start making loose accusa...
by Barry Fox CAN262
29 Sep 2009, 19:04
Forum: General IOM
Topic: IOM in ISAF
Replies: 198
Views: 159418

I'll agree that we will disagree on this. As clear as one take is to you, the opposite is very clear to me. I'll accept that it is close to the source though. As uncertain as some of the conditions of ISAF membership may be it is possible that it is no more uncertain than a reborn RSD that may have ...
by Barry Fox CAN262
29 Sep 2009, 07:39
Forum: General IOM
Topic: IOM in ISAF
Replies: 198
Views: 159418

Roy, Good information but unfortunately, as you note, not official. Just to point out that words mean different things to different people, depending on what you are looking for, I find that last sentence of the reply from an ISAF person to be interesting because to me it clearly says that ISAF want...
by Barry Fox CAN262
28 Sep 2009, 21:33
Forum: General IOM
Topic: IOM in ISAF
Replies: 198
Views: 159418

This is a non-official, non-Exec based question. Sometime, much earlier this year I think, there was some thought that ISAF wanted to dissolve "Divisions"(?) and that RSD was one of those. There was a discussion paper of some kind published and then I think that was chased around for awhile. Mostly ...
by Barry Fox CAN262
23 Sep 2009, 07:29
Forum: General IOM
Topic: IOM in ISAF
Replies: 198
Views: 159418

I was asked elsewhere about the voting process and where the 2/3 thing comes in, etc. My long answer is: This is my best answer and I believe it supports the directions given. It may not be the way it has been done but seems to me to support the printed word. The meetings are not actually a meeting ...
by Barry Fox CAN262
20 Sep 2009, 04:47
Forum: General IOM
Topic: IOM in ISAF
Replies: 198
Views: 159418

The revised version is posted on the home page now. It is really very little different. I would have thought that everyone would start to work with their fellow countrymen and NCA representatives to lobby for their country to vote in whatever manner they felt was correct. Certainly, there is always ...
by Barry Fox CAN262
18 Sep 2009, 22:14
Forum: General IOM
Topic: IOM in ISAF
Replies: 198
Views: 159418

With time being what it is, I have unilaterally issued a change of the Notice of Meeting to the WC representatives.

I suspect that at some point the revised version will be posted on teh web site.

Sorry, you don't get out of voting.
by Barry Fox CAN262
18 Sep 2009, 17:33
Forum: General IOM
Topic: IOM in ISAF
Replies: 198
Views: 159418

I'll await instructions.
by Barry Fox CAN262
17 Sep 2009, 23:47
Forum: General IOM
Topic: IOM in ISAF
Replies: 198
Views: 159418

Depending on time zones, work days and those things it should be linked pretty soon for general viewing. If I got the wording right it is intended to be a decision about right now, not forever. As you might guess I have an opinion but I am attempting to remain neutral here due to my position. When t...
by Barry Fox CAN262
17 Sep 2009, 08:28
Forum: General IOM
Topic: IOM in ISAF
Replies: 198
Views: 159418

Notice of Meeting

A Notice of Meeting has been emailed to the currently available email addresses for NCA representatives within the last 20 minutes. Your respective represenataives should be contacting you to gather your vote either for or against the proposal.
by Barry Fox CAN262
29 Aug 2009, 03:02
Forum: General IOM
Topic: IOM in ISAF
Replies: 198
Views: 159418

No comment, just direction. On the front page of the website the first item in print is the first part of the announcement to owners. At the bottom of that is a is a link noted by "Read the rest of this entry" which takes you to the full note. At the bottom of that are two more links that take you t...
by Barry Fox CAN262
12 Aug 2009, 05:34
Forum: General IOM
Topic: IOM in ISAF
Replies: 198
Views: 159418

In a basic manner, the only decision that is made is exactly what was decided previously. That is that the owners will get the opportunity to vote prior to ISAF having a chance to make a final decision. I can't understand why that isn't clear. As far as the thickness of my skin is concerned, it is r...
by Barry Fox CAN262
11 Aug 2009, 07:17
Forum: General IOM
Topic: IOM in ISAF
Replies: 198
Views: 159418

I'll stand by my last posting for now. I have posted a note to my fellow Exec members stating my thoughts so someone of them can decide what we should do.
by Barry Fox CAN262
11 Aug 2009, 05:54
Forum: General IOM
Topic: IOM in ISAF
Replies: 198
Views: 159418

I guess the right thing to do is for us to withdraw it today. I haven't discussed that with the rest of the Exec members so that is just my frustrated way of dealing with it. A day or two before the deadline to submit we received a note saying that we should but had to get it done right now. So we w...
by Barry Fox CAN262
11 Aug 2009, 03:51
Forum: General IOM
Topic: IOM in ISAF
Replies: 198
Views: 159418

We will.
by Barry Fox CAN262
11 Aug 2009, 02:42
Forum: General IOM
Topic: IOM in ISAF
Replies: 198
Views: 159418

Ken, Based on our email conversation (that I consider offline and will not re-post here) your comment about not engaging anyone is fairly out of line. If everyone will read all the words in the communications you have received so far you will see that we have to option to withdraw our application at...
by Barry Fox CAN262
27 Jul 2009, 02:54
Forum: Class Associations and Class Management
Topic: 2009 Election Results
Replies: 1
Views: 5716

2009 Election Results

This will be a bit long. Following the 2009 AGM the results of the election for Executive positions was announced with Bruce Andersen named as Chairman and Robert Grubisa as VC Technical. The balance of the positions were either uncontested or there were no nominations. The uncontested nominations w...
by Barry Fox CAN262
17 Jul 2009, 00:41
Forum: Class Associations and Class Management
Topic: Results of 2009 AGM
Replies: 41
Views: 45446

I have asked all the members of the World Council, including all of the "current" Exec members (elected or not) to consider declaring the entire recent AGM to be invalid and start over. For me, I have been placed in a position where no matter what my decisions on a process to follow might be, I am i...
by Barry Fox CAN262
15 Jul 2009, 04:43
Forum: Class Associations and Class Management
Topic: Results of 2009 AGM
Replies: 41
Views: 45446

I should refrain from commenting but I'll do it and try to hopefully let you know that something is going on. There is no re-vote taking place. There is a re-affirmation of what any of NCAs had intended to be done with their votes. As a point of record, the only official day for receipt of votes is ...