Robbe WindStar

Luis Duarte · Post by **Luis Duarte** » 15 Jul 2005, 10:16

Hi all,

This is my first post, so bare with me a bit.

I've searched this forum for my next question, but the feedback wasn't what I wanted.

Basically, the question is...

Is the Robbe WindStar suited for IOM Racing and is it within the class rules ?

Tks in advance,

Cheers

LuÃs Duarte

awallin · Post by **awallin** » 15 Jul 2005, 11:40

Luis Duarte wrote:Hi all,
This is my first post, so bare with me a bit.
I've searched this forum for my next question, but the feedback wasn't what I wanted.
Basically, the question is...
Is the Robbe WindStar suited for IOM Racing and is it within the class rules ?
Tks in advance,
Cheers
LuÃs Duarte

take a look at
http://www.iomclass.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=541

I think the hull could be almost OK. The standard fin is definitely too thick and the standard bulb is too light. There are also some strange solutions in the standard rig so better to copy the rig from some other IOM.

Anders

Luis Duarte · Post by **Luis Duarte** » 15 Jul 2005, 12:59

Tks Anders,

Stay in touch

Cheers

LuÃs Duarte

Bruce Lopez · Post by **Bruce Lopez** » 15 Jul 2005, 19:38

Anders,

When you say that the fin is too thick and the bulb is too light, are the kit parts out of spec and not legal to use in competition? If this is the case, are there aftermarket options available to replace these? A local store sells them here and I might try one out for the kids to use.

Best Regards,

Bruce Lopez

Barry Chisam · Post by **Barry Chisam** » 15 Jul 2005, 19:42

I think you should check inside the hull as I think some of the early windstars were moulded with pigmented resin which would make them impossible to certificate.

Bruce Lopez · Post by **Bruce Lopez** » 15 Jul 2005, 19:46

Barry,

You are correct sir. I would have to order one and request the non-pigmented hull as the store only has the white (illegal) hulls.

Best Regards,

Bruce Lopez

awallin · Post by **awallin** » 16 Jul 2005, 08:08

Bruce Lopez wrote: When you say that the fin is too thick and the bulb is too light, are the kit parts out of spec and not legal to use in competition? If this is the case, are there aftermarket options available to replace these? A local store sells them here and I might try one out for the kids to use.

I think they are class legal but they are not competitive. There is a carbon fin upgrade which should be better, try to fin a fin with 5-6mm maximum thickness. I don't know about the total weight but almost all competitive boats have keels very close to the 2500g maximum.

I have a scanned pdf article(2Mb!) about the windstar, email me if you are interested.

Anders

Luis Duarte · Post by **Luis Duarte** » 16 Jul 2005, 09:31

VCinfocomms wrote:I have a scanned pdf article(2Mb!) about the windstar, email me if you are interested.

Can you send it to me ? I think you have my e-mail

Tks in advance

LuÃs

dgarr75456 · Post by **dgarr75456** » 18 Jul 2005, 21:50

Who makes the carbon fiber fin for the Windstar?

lenz · Post by **lenz** » 18 Jul 2005, 23:28

Who makes the carbon fiber fin for the Windstar

look here. Kiele/Ruder >>Kiele>> it is the third one in the list
http://www.rcsegel.de/

ChrisJ · Post by **ChrisJ** » 25 Jul 2005, 10:55

Gentlemen
I posted this response to a thread back in January:

The Robbe Windstar was developed from Chris Dick's excellent timber Metrick Magick which he sailed to great success, including the first IOM Worlds.He passed the design lines to Dick Wallinger, UK Agent for Robbe Schluter, who carved a form to a slightly modifed version. He moulded several of this design, and Gordon Sears sailed one during 1994/95. A photo appears on the front cover of September 1995 Radio Yachting News. Gordon was always very competitive and the design had 10mm less freeboard than the Dicks boat, deck edges radiused, chine line faired neaer the bow, and slightly narrower stern.
When Robbe expressed interest in doing an IOM kit Dick took the original to Germany and it was used as a starting point for Windstar. The protoype was sent over to the UK and I (and others) sailed it for a week. Robbe were given a list of queries and also a copy of the Class rules (in German).
As is often the case with large volume sales companies the marketing people were less concerned with top level racing quality than general user customers and the kit betrays that in a lot of details.
The first 100 hulls did have pigment problem but Robbe then offered a free of charge swap (in clear epoxy) for any purchasers who wanted to get their boat registered for racing.
The Windstar lead ballast and fin are within class spec, as they are over the minimum figure in the class rules for the fin ballast. At the time the kit was designed (1994/5/6) quite a few people were experimenting with ballast below the maximum and several boats in the St Cyr worlds had 'light' ballasts to induce heeling with braod beam boats.
Because of the details designed into the product it is really not a good choice for anyone wanting to race, but it does sail properly if built well, having the basic lines of a really good well balanced boat.

Chris Jackson
GBR 2243

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