Hi Don
Your question may well lead to more clear ISAF rules and in turn to easier to understand IOM class rules. Absolutely no reason for you to say "sorry"!
Best regards
Jan
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- 03 Jun 2010, 07:31
- Forum: Class Rules
- Topic: Another query
- Replies: 7
- Views: 13603
- 02 Jun 2010, 19:25
- Forum: Class Rules
- Topic: Another query
- Replies: 7
- Views: 13603
Re: Another query
Hi Bruce I think the IOM class rules are ok as they are and that an IOMICA request is not needed, but Don Case raised an issue that could help to improve on the ISAF Standard Class Rules and the ISAF Equipment Rules of Sailing. An issue that I, as chairman of the ISAF ERS Working Party, intend to di...
- 02 Jun 2010, 11:37
- Forum: Class Rules
- Topic: Another query
- Replies: 7
- Views: 13603
Re: Another query
Hi Don A few comments: Class rule C.7.5: " Boom spar curvature measured between points on the top of the spar 10 mm from each end ..." Class rule A.5.2: "... when a term is printed in “ bold ” the definition in the ERS applies." So there is a sort of a "search engine" built into the class rules. ERS...
- 25 Feb 2010, 19:50
- Forum: Class Rules
- Topic: raising roles on NAVIGA???
- Replies: 3
- Views: 8480
Re: raising roles on NAVIGA???
Hi Tzvetan, The latest version I have of the Naviga Racing Rules are in German and from 2002. Having read your message I searched the Internet but did not find any Naviga Racing Rules at all. I can send you the 2002 rules if you send me a PM (search for my user name and click the "PM" button under "...
- 26 Oct 2009, 18:10
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 165576
Gary Jobson has only been in office since Saturday from what I understand :wink: An opportunity to build bridges? We almost lost Appendix E at one stage when one of the biggest sailing federations argued that the Appendix had no relevance to ISAF sailing. The request was withdrawn however after a re...
- 26 Oct 2009, 15:37
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 165576
- 08 Oct 2009, 23:12
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 165576
Val In my previous post I tried to describe how the ISAF class rules amendment procedure works and the importance of separating the role of a class authority and the role of a class rules authority to achieve best possible class rules. When the IMYRU was transformed into the IYRU-MYRD (later ISAF-R...
- 08 Oct 2009, 09:20
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 165576
The Class Rules Amendment Procedure – ISAF Classes In my post of Sep 28, 2009 9:39 am I described the ISAF decision making process in general. I also mentioned that changes to class rules is an exception as the previous one date for ISAF decisions did not serve the needs of the ISAF classes very ...
- 29 Sep 2009, 20:03
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 165576
- 29 Sep 2009, 19:55
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 165576
- 28 Sep 2009, 21:00
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 165576
- 28 Sep 2009, 10:46
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 165576
International Measurers How ICAs address the IM issue vary from classes hiring professionals to carry out the job to classes having IMs that do it for the love of the class and only ask for any travelling and lodging cost to be covered. Recruiting of other international race officials is often done...
- 28 Sep 2009, 10:39
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 165576
Hi Roy As stated in the introduction to the Seahorse Magazine article published at the ISAF web site it was written a few years ago, but if you read Equipment Committee where it is stated Sailing Committee then I think it is probably the simplest and still reasonably accurate description of the ISAF...
- 27 Sep 2009, 22:02
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 165576
I had a look at "About ISAF" at http://www.sailing.org/173.php
Very clear and informative as you say, but I did not find the information you presented in your previous post.
Jan
Very clear and informative as you say, but I did not find the information you presented in your previous post.
Jan
- 27 Sep 2009, 20:57
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 165576
I keep getting amazed by some of the things I read in this forum about how ISAF is supposed to work, supposed to want, etc. As to ISAF regulations and requirements, remember that the ISAF Executive dont make the decisions, they only investigate and report back to the committees affected. They in tur...
- 15 Sep 2009, 13:14
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 165576
Sixth, and finally, I'm also not exactly sure what you are saying about RSD. I have always argued that while RSD does not currently have properly elected officers, RSD's agreement with IOMICA is still valid. If we directly affiliate with ISAF does that agreement/authority go away? If so, how? If it...
- 15 Sep 2009, 10:04
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 165576
Roy So does this then mean that when IOMICA joins ISAF it only needs to comply with those regulations that suits it? I think that as sailing is an Olympic sport ISAF has to have an agreement with WADA http://www.wada-ama.org/en My guess is that what you read in ISAF Regulation 21 is a result of such...
- 15 Sep 2009, 08:09
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 165576
- 11 Sep 2009, 07:58
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 165576
Hi Roy As you know I try to answer questions about how ISAF works. I would also like further clarification on the measurement question, on who will "control" IOMICA at ISAF and particularly how this will effect relations between IOM sailors and various national authorities (like US or Australian Sai...
- 07 Sep 2009, 22:48
- Forum: Measurement and Measurers
- Topic: Certificating a boat from another island
- Replies: 2
- Views: 10639
Hi Peter THE CLASS RULES A.14 RE-CERTIFICATION A.14.1 A hull may be issued with a new certificate , showing dates of initial and new certification control as applicable: (a) WHEN A CERTIFICATE BECOMES INVALID UPON CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP and the new owner applies to the certification authority in the co...
- 28 Aug 2009, 14:31
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 165576
An attempt to a relatively short post explaining how ISAF works and how an application for ISAF Class status is processed. The main ISAF members are the National Sailing Federations (the M ember N ational A uthorities) and the Classes represented by I nternational C lass A ssociations. There are tw...
- 14 Aug 2009, 14:08
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 165576
Fact is R/C sailing is different from other forms of sailing. And so are all other special disciplines of sailing and this is reflected by the RRS Appendices of which Appendix E is one. As I see it kite surfing could be regarded as the most different discipline. R/C sailors (to state the obvious) a...
- 12 Aug 2009, 19:30
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 165576
Just a short comment on the metaphor of "Buying a house". Joining a sports organisation is in my view a slightly different undertaking. The people living in the "house" do not intend to hand it over, but would very much like to see others moving in too. For this purpose they have created some "movin...
- 11 Aug 2009, 11:06
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: IOM in ISAF
- Replies: 198
- Views: 165576
I do not want to get involved in if and when IMOICA should apply for ISAF International Class status for the One Metre class. I would just like to put forward that I think the conditions for affiliation are known at this point. Basically the same as for any class joining ISAF. Application Fee GBP100...
- 18 Apr 2009, 19:36
- Forum: Class Rules
- Topic: Class Rules Principles
- Replies: 7
- Views: 9879
Class Rules Principles
When glancing through the “status of the 2008 voted rules changesâ€
- 18 Apr 2009, 15:39
- Forum: Class Rules
- Topic: What is the status of the 2008 voted rules changes?
- Replies: 57
- Views: 50256
Hi Roy The reason is that ISAF-RSD, while seeking a final decision on the ISAF / ISAF-RSD relation, has continued to handle tasks like being class rules authority for the ISAF-RSD classes. But, as stated in my previous posting, if IOMICA is unhappy with RSD carrying out this task for the One Metre, ...
- 18 Apr 2009, 10:32
- Forum: Class Rules
- Topic: What is the status of the 2008 voted rules changes?
- Replies: 57
- Views: 50256
First of all: The ISAF-RSD PC is totally aware that constitutional deadlines have not been meet. When I accepted to take on the task as PC acting chairman I asked the remaining committee members to stay on until we have had a DM vote on the future of the ISAF-RSD. For several reasons it has taken mu...
- 15 Jul 2008, 10:48
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: 2008 Subscription to ISAF-RSD
- Replies: 8
- Views: 11494
The current ISAF-RSD agreement with ISAF has right from the start had the status of a temporary one. An agreement which enables RSD, while benefiting from a number of ISAF services, to plan for the integration of radio sailing into the ISAF organisational structure. RSD has currently no formal ways ...
- 23 Oct 2005, 10:51
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: Oval Foredeck holes
- Replies: 70
- Views: 86976
A class that is approved as a national or international class usually have to have its class rules approved by the authority that has given the class its national or international status. In the case of the IOM the authority is ISAF-RSD acting on the behalf of ISAF and expected to apply ISAF princip...
- 22 Oct 2005, 12:02
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: Oval Foredeck holes
- Replies: 70
- Views: 86976
I think this issue should not be decided by the technical committee "interpreting" the rules, but by the class members. I think it is important to understand what an interpretation is. To quote ISAF Regulations: “an interpretation shall only clarify an existing class rule and shall not change the...