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- 29 May 2009, 09:17
- Forum: Class Rules
- Topic: ISAF reply to CR changes proposed at 2008 AGM
- Replies: 23
- Views: 24615
I read the ISAF response as a rebuke to self- important pedants who spend their time creating problems for the sport of it. I'm reminded here of the practice of some film critics of writing a review without bothering to view the film. Most readers won't notice because they won't have seen the film,...
- 28 May 2009, 21:59
- Forum: Class Rules
- Topic: ISAF reply to CR changes proposed at 2008 AGM
- Replies: 23
- Views: 24615
Hi David In all fairness, I think you may have overlooked underlining this section of the code of conduct for this forum. I've done it for you here: Equally, officials and helpers are required to provide comments and information which uphold the highest standards of discussion and debate. The "Accep...
- 28 May 2009, 19:09
- Forum: Class Rules
- Topic: ISAF reply to CR changes proposed at 2008 AGM
- Replies: 23
- Views: 24615
If Roy's posts were always quite free from, ah, character assassination, name calling, insults, personal attacks, slurs, degrading remarks, and reference to the personality of other participants, well, then he is entitled to cast the first stone. But to business. I also did not find a single word in...
- 28 May 2009, 18:21
- Forum: General IOM
- Topic: Time to change the Roy and Lester dynamic
- Replies: 4
- Views: 7390
Yup, a whole topic. Wow, imagine that! I did hope that, with me no longer responding, Roy might quit his gratuitious personalisation, slurs, inuendo, name-calling, dissing my past actions, and mud-slinging on what he thought were my general intentions. I did hope that Roy might turn to discussing th...
- 28 May 2009, 15:54
- Forum: Class Rules
- Topic: G.3.4 ON RULEBOOK
- Replies: 38
- Views: 37322
- 28 May 2009, 12:18
- Forum: Class Rules
- Topic: G.3.4 ON RULEBOOK
- Replies: 38
- Views: 37322
Hi Val Yes, the class rules were changed in 2002 (along with quite a list of other issues). The rules now require either batten pockets or battens. I don't know that there are any 'strong feelings' that this needs 'correcting' or 'dealing with'. No known sails are out of class and no owners or measu...
- 28 May 2009, 10:12
- Forum: Class Rules
- Topic: G.3.4 ON RULEBOOK
- Replies: 38
- Views: 37322
Don: There is nothing wrong with asking questions when you are unfamiliar with the IOM class rules. Hi Don Actually, there is nothing wrong with asking questions, period. Only those afraid of the answers want to restrict question-asking. And yes, the rules are too complicated Actually, the rules ar...
- 28 May 2009, 09:55
- Forum: Class Rules
- Topic: G.3.4 ON RULEBOOK
- Replies: 38
- Views: 37322
3. I don't have any batten pockets in my mainsail, so I must put three battens, isn't it? Hi Joan Yes, 3 battens needed. 4. And if I must put battens in my mainsail, I understand there is no restriction in the material and measurement of them. I know of no restriction on materials, but dimensions a...
- 27 May 2009, 22:49
- Forum: Class Rules
- Topic: ISAF reply to CR changes proposed at 2008 AGM
- Replies: 23
- Views: 24615
Well, what has been learned? Just my opinion, of course... From the long list of 'Reject's, we discovered that the class would have received a more sympathetic and more helpful response in achieving the desired class rule changes from Robert Grubisa as the Chairman of the RSD Technical Committee tha...
- 27 May 2009, 19:16
- Forum: Class Rules
- Topic: G.3.4 ON RULEBOOK
- Replies: 38
- Views: 37322
Hi Don Well, on the face of it the rule does seem to permit a batten that is 2 mm long (smile). Perhaps the real issue is whether your measurer would accept it as a 'strip of plastic or wood'. The measurer has to mark the 'batten pocket point' on the leech in order to complete certain of the measure...
- 27 May 2009, 18:15
- Forum: Class Rules
- Topic: G.3.4 ON RULEBOOK
- Replies: 38
- Views: 37322
As happens from time to time, things are not quite as straightforward as they could be. Don asks whether a 'batten' could be inked onto the sail (just like a sail shape indicator stripe). 'Batten' is not an ERS defined term, and interestingly is not explicitly listed as a part of the sail in ERS G.1...
- 27 May 2009, 14:25
- Forum: Class Rules
- Topic: G.3.4 ON RULEBOOK
- Replies: 38
- Views: 37322
- 27 May 2009, 10:53
- Forum: Class Rules
- Topic: G.3.4 ON RULEBOOK
- Replies: 38
- Views: 37322
There is no point in having batten pockets if there is nothing in them Hi Val From the point of view of the rules, I'm not sure this matters. The rule requires pockets, but if there are none it requires battens. The rule makes it quite clear that there is no *requirement* for the pockets to carry b...
- 26 May 2009, 22:13
- Forum: Class Rules
- Topic: G.3.4 ON RULEBOOK
- Replies: 38
- Views: 37322
Reads to me like you SHALL have 3 batten pockets OR 3 battens at the leech but not both. Hi Barry Well, I think what it says is somewhat different from how you read it. I think this is what it says (using your editorial style): You SHALL have 3 batten pockets OR 3 battens if there are no batten poc...
- 26 May 2009, 18:20
- Forum: Class Rules
- Topic: G.3.4 ON RULEBOOK
- Replies: 38
- Views: 37322
- 22 May 2009, 08:48
- Forum: Events and Event Management
- Topic: World Champs 2009
- Replies: 102
- Views: 87252
Ok. Time to wrap this one up, I guess. This is a summary of where I think we have got to on the vexed issue of colour in our sails, originally triggered by the MYA's suggestion that this needed looking into, and probably needed some rule changes. On the matter of permitting coloured sail material in...
- 21 May 2009, 12:52
- Forum: Class Rules
- Topic: Battery Weight & Placement
- Replies: 118
- Views: 102703
Hi Val Just to check (since I do not really see why your IJ laughs), the question you are asking is, 'Do the current IOM rules permit a change of position and/or weight of a battery pack between heats, between races, or not at all during an event? My recollection is that you thought the class rules ...
- 21 May 2009, 11:34
- Forum: Events and Event Management
- Topic: World Champs 2009
- Replies: 102
- Views: 87252
Why do you think that coloured plies should be banned under the current rules What 'should' be permitted is not the issue at the moment. I'm trying to discuss what the class rules actually mean. On the face of it, they ban plies of different colours. They do not appear to ban ply of the same colour...
- 21 May 2009, 10:51
- Forum: Events and Event Management
- Topic: World Champs 2009
- Replies: 102
- Views: 87252
- 21 May 2009, 08:13
- Forum: Events and Event Management
- Topic: World Champs 2009
- Replies: 102
- Views: 87252
- 20 May 2009, 16:38
- Forum: Events and Event Management
- Topic: World Champs 2009
- Replies: 102
- Views: 87252
If you take Lester's reading of the rule, then it is incumbent upon the competitor to prove that their sailmaker used the same section of mylar Hi Jim Nothing in my comments suggest this, even remotely. What that rule REALLY means[...] the top 1/3 of the sail can not be made of 2 mil while the bott...
- 20 May 2009, 14:38
- Forum: Events and Event Management
- Topic: World Champs 2009
- Replies: 102
- Views: 87252
if you want a sail made out of a different colour for each panel, feel free to do so Hi Val You advice might need to come with a health warning. The Class Rule says: G.3.1 CONSTRUCTION (a) MANDATORY (2) The body of the sail shall consist of the same ply throughout Given the closed nature of the cla...
- 18 May 2009, 23:13
- Forum: Events and Event Management
- Topic: World Champs 2009
- Replies: 102
- Views: 87252
- 18 May 2009, 22:53
- Forum: Events and Event Management
- Topic: World Champs 2009
- Replies: 102
- Views: 87252
- 18 May 2009, 22:49
- Forum: Events and Event Management
- Topic: World Champs 2009
- Replies: 102
- Views: 87252
- 18 May 2009, 22:44
- Forum: Events and Event Management
- Topic: World Champs 2009
- Replies: 102
- Views: 87252
Did I even mention the Sailing Instructions? Well actually, no I didn't. Hi Val. Perhaps you should, since that is what this part of the topic is about. Bruce Andersen posted on Thu May 14, 2009 at 11:39 pm into this thread a list of Sailing Instructions for the Worlds which change the Class Rules ...
- 18 May 2009, 18:54
- Forum: Class Rules
- Topic: Battery Weight & Placement
- Replies: 118
- Views: 102703
- 18 May 2009, 18:35
- Forum: Events and Event Management
- Topic: World Champs 2009
- Replies: 102
- Views: 87252
- 18 May 2009, 10:25
- Forum: Events and Event Management
- Topic: World Champs 2009
- Replies: 102
- Views: 87252
Hi Val Good to see you agree with me that the proposed sailing instruction is flawed. Added 18 May 2009 13:40 -- Before going too much further, there is a line of thinking which says that the proposed instruction simply is not necessary. I think it is understood (but nowhere actually written!) that ...
- 18 May 2009, 08:32
- Forum: Events and Event Management
- Topic: World Champs 2009
- Replies: 102
- Views: 87252
We are talking about the Sailing Instructions for the Worlds. Let's discuss the proposed sailing instruction, rather than weasling around with irrelevancy. One of these instructions changes the IOM Class Rules as follows: "Add: G.3.1 (b)(14) Self colored ply." The intention is to permit coloured sai...