IOMICA Forum

However, as I understand it at the end of the competition the top boats may not be sailing in the same heat. I believe it is essential to find a system in which for the last race or even last two races the top sailors are sailing against each other in the same heat. This provides an element of ...

Hi John

2. How will discards and redress be handled for Part B of the event?
Think it is up ti Judges: some can give an average on the regatta, some for the day and some just a place assigned.

Personally, I would recommend average of qualification or finals depend on where redress is given ...

Hi Roy

The proposed SHRS system for major races is great for those at the top of the ranking, less so for those below, and the further down you are the worse things become. Basically, you will lose the opportunity to sail against the best ........

Actually the exact opposite. Except for the ...

Hi Roy

The proposed SHRS system for major races is great for those at the top of the ranking, less so for those below, and the further down you are the worse things become. Basically, you will lose the opportunity to sail against the best ........

Actually the exact opposite. Except for the ...

There is already a blanket exception for racing under HMS. It is called 70.5(a).

I have had discussions on this very matter with a senior ISAF committee member and it was he that offered the opinion that our form of racing requires the result to be known immediately.

There are two situations where ...

I would have to agree with Lester on this one.

Alfonso, your and my original understandings are both correct and incorrect. It all depends on the specifics (or lack of specifics) of the Sailing Instructions.

We would all agree that this is not a perfect situation, but it is what we currently have ...

Hi Alfonso,

With all versions of HMS and Stollery before that I have always believed it to be actual place on the water "as if they have finished".

Of the remainder, if there are than 4 boats or fewer still racing on the water, immediately record their places on the water in
conjunction with the ...

Alfonso,

I am not sure what your query is as you have stated the correct situation in your question. It also appears, from your post, that you believe there may be a link between the points a DSQ in A Heat receives and the number of finishers in a heat.

First the DSQ, is a you state Number of ...

Barry


We ( the big we, not just for IOMs) don't have a very good method of cross referencing or tying various documents together so that someone relatively new to it all will likely have a problem finding everything they need to.

A daunting task to resolve


How right you are !!!

In fact, I ...

Thanks Barry for a comprehensive posting.

With what has been going on in the last few weeks I thought it appropriate to stay on the sidelines for the time being.

There is one document you have not mentioned which explicitly gives ICAs the right to hold World, Continental and Regional Championships ...

Hi Alfonso,


May be we could have tried to find a solution with ISAF and YNZ.


It would be enlightening to know who the "we" are who will be able to take YNZ, probably one of the most successful NMAs by head of population, by the scruff of the neck and convince them they should treat the IOM ...

Thank you Brig for your compliments with respect to our turnout.

Before anyone jumps down my throat the current vote is under the current structure – end of story.

Your response does however bring out the wider issue of how voting within IOMICA is structured and whether or not it is democratic ...

Far From it Brig far from it.

So far 32% of our members have voted and at least another 5% expected in the mail today.

It will close early to allow travel to our Marblehead Champs, and of course we are ahead of you anyway in time zones.

From the looks of things the USA vote stalled a couple of ...

Hi Barry,

I accept your reasons for the post and welcome them.

NZRYA is affiliated to YNZ as a Non Commercial Maritime organisation. This fulfils the RSD requirement to be affiliated with the NA (or be the NA) and has allowed YNZ to delegate the authority for Radio Sailing.

It also allows NZRYA ...

Lester,

Please do not quote out of context. Read the two preceding paragraphs. But of course that does not fit with your philosophy of no change.

You well know, or should if you have actually read previous posts or documents circulated, that the NZRYA is affiliated with YNZ. The type of ...

Ole,

I am afraid I find your last question both arrogant and insulting.

YES, I know IOM sailors that are poor. Many in our country who are still sailing Radio Yachts in their late 70s and early 80s were comfortable when they retired by world economics have severely eroded that position.

Yes, I ...

So No Change Lester again,

Contrary to your "experience" and contrary to the statement issued by the IOMICA there WILL be change.

Possibly not in all countries but definitely in others.

YNZ states that only Clubs may use the RRS. YNZ also states that eligibility at Nationals requires New Zealand ...

Will those numbers be posted as has been past practice?

Barry,

Its as official as anything else in this topic purporting to come from ISAF.

I'm afraid we will have to agree to disagree on the meaning of the quote. I cannot see where it clearly says the ISAF want classes etc. It simply says that is there are advantages along those lines.

It also says ...

Hi Barry,

Good question. As far as I am aware there is no "official" view from ISAF.

Having said that, I recently had dinner with a Board Member of Yachting New Zealand who happens to be on the ISAF Review Board and he said that there is nothing on the table to dispense with Divisions and could ...

Ok Jan,

On second reading I see that you say "In practice......".

So does this then mean that when IOMICA joins ISAF it only needs to comply with those regulations that suits it?

Regards,

Hi Jan,

I have scanned ISAF Reg 21 and obviously missed something. I would appreciate your help in clarifying for me.


Scope
These Anti-Doping Rules shall apply to ISAF, each Member National Authority (MNA) of ISAF, and each participant in the activities of ISAF or any of its MNAs by virtue of ...

Alfonso,

In view of the comments by Mr Thorpe


.......so there is no change to the current situation.

and

.....The regulations were not written with radio sailing in mind were the use of observers etc. during in a regatta is common place.


So that a comprehensive summary of the issues can be ...

Robert,

The more I view this thread the more uncertain I become.

The RRS have been quoted as allowing a class such as IOM to organise the jury / umpires as it sees fit.

However, the RRS are the final stage of conducting a Worlds. Before any boat gets on the water the contractural requirements ...

Just a simple minded overview of the current situation/debate.

IOMICA presses ahead with joining ISAF in the current timeframe and is subsequently unable negotiate concessions in respect to costs and officials. As a result NCAs in some countries respond that they no longer consider the cost ...

Looking at the situation that has resulted it would appear that it may well be appropriate for the new Executive, when finalised, to look at the overall process of NCA voting and in fact how the NCA numbers are arrived at.

NCA "A": Requires annual owner and boat renewal (by way of subscription/levy ...

Agreed RoyL,

An absolute need to negotiate with ISAF to reduce the number of International judges. However, the target number should be zero not three.

If we, as a small interest group within the overall sailing community, cannot find within our ranks people that are capable of holding the respect ...

Hi Anders,

NZL vote 40.7% of membership sent to you via email.

Regards

Hi Anders,

What date would be the last for submitting electronically?

I have my email to members ready but want to be able to put a return date on that.

Cheers