IOMICA Forum

you just can't help your self.

Hi Richard,
I have read your NCA statement and understand the time constraints only too well.
But can we get some perspective? I know we did not initially give NCA’s much time (that word again) to ballot their members but you guys managed it in 17 days. On reading your post you were happy to ...

Jeff call me and I'll fill you in.
Greg

Thanks Richard,
It was your joke that made us aware of previous "sea lawyers" at WC's
from the forum you will see there is a divided opinion. or VC T is of the opinion that they are legal. The RSD Technical thinks it may be challanged. Val has suggested we simply rely on the wording. At the end of ...

yes I agree but given the wish by one of our NCA that the issue should blow up at the WC then it is proper for us to do what we can to prevent that sort of thing and although I agree with where this is going there is some indication that it may not be consistant with other technical views so you ...

Members, it seems the majority of the executive think it better to wear a little pain and adjust the agenda and split the proposal under discussion. Although this may seem outside our constitutions provisions I am comfortable with this course of action. We do not need a lesson in constitutional law ...

Barry, thanks for the effort. Pitty we all didn't check our facts before we started tapping away.
So as I see it we have already covered the wish to use these radios and we have provision to use them all we need to do is sort out the receiver issue with D 2.4 and go back to my initial proposal to ...

Barry think you have caught me out. I know I refered to an old version of the rules when I tried to resolve this issue. On reflection I am now convinced the current rules give a clear answer for C.5.3 (c). Interesting question is, what rule version where u looking at when you posted previously ...

Yep I think your onto something. As I understand it the rules re Radio equipment are intended to allow the control of 2 functions. per C.5.3 and then to make sure there is no positioning information transmitted from the boat.
Does a 2.4 gig transmit ?
If not what does it matter if the boat has 2 or ...

I just cannot leave you guy alone to play nicely. :P
No, we do not want bundled votes and if we all had more time I am sure we would have pick up the error.
Andy just split the vote in the agenda. NCA's have plenty of time to get the amended voting position off their members.

If anyone has the ...

Ray love your work
:D
Roy suggest you as TSC make a proposal to the executive to approve a TSC proposed emergency rule interpretation that radio control equipment using spektrum technology is class compliant subject to a full investigation by IOMICA / RSD.
This will remove any problems for the WC ...

Guys from a personal point of view and to get back on track. I think the new radio equipment is proberbly outside our current rules but what about multi channel units when we are only allowed 2 channels (sorry silly). but comply with the intent.(2 transmitting channels) If I was on a jury and a ...

Thanks Lester,
Appreciate the reply.
Life is in the future not the past.
Cheers
Greg

Lester again we speak a different language and I am sure you will have the last say on this thread but :wink:

Ah, no, it is Roy's thread
Just a light hearted intro with a bit of history.

you seem to be the Chairman of Lester's Executive, operating according to Lester's Constitution and Lester ...

Seeing this is my thread could you 2 take your argument elseware.
Good God,
I go away for a couple of weeks and look what happens.
Don't think we will ever see Roy and Lester agree nor are we likely to see Lester and Bruce agreeing. Mind you I have not always agree with Lester either, which lead to ...

Dear Members,
You will all note that I have not accepted nomination for any position on the executive. :cry:
Since accepting the Chairman position in 2005 my involvement in R/C sailing has reduced significantly. Other interests and priorities have limited the time I have available and I cannot ...

Sorry Olivier,
I did not fully read your question "after Race 1"
The final version of HMS 2007 does not address this and it is left up to the SI but the 2 options are to extend time out till only "6" boats are left then finish final boats on water taking into account of DNS. OCS etc or simply Time ...

Olivier,
Under HMS 2007
2.2 Time Out Limit
As an exception to the Sailing Instructions, for Race 1 only there shall be no Time Out Limit. All boats
shall be allowed to finish, provided that they had started before the leading boat in their heat had
finished in accordance with RRS 28.1.
cheers
Greg

I'm not sure I agree. A good administartor does not always need to compete but I guess they always have the option to decline.
If this was thought to be a reward for the time and effert by the chairman then it MUST be extended to all Executive. They all play a hugh part in keeping this class ...

Just to get some balance. We are racing . with a 5 heat race and 6 promotions we infact have the first 5 in the bottom 4 heats holding station, just to promote.( the real race is for 6th place same as 4th I'm no sure we really get a benefit) thats 20 boats out of 76 that do not have to race. A great ...

The proposed HMS 2007 provides for both 4 (84 entries) and 6 (76 entries) promotion RSD have not rejected but neither have they been approved. Zoren has concerns about the 6 promotions that was pushed by the IOMICA executive. He has some valid points but from forum discussions etc it would appear ...

Hi Roy,
I am sure I do not have to speak for Mike but I have just had a quick look and cannot find your offer to help or sit on the sub committee. I know it is there but cannot find it. There is a lot of info in these forums and sometimes hard to find. We are all short of time so I suggest you send ...

I have just been informed that MYA will have a updated HMS to cover 6 up/down before the January deadline for the WC.
Greg

VC Measurement
Members,
The executive committee has eventually found a candidate for the position of VC Measurement. Mike Eldred from USA has been co-opted to fill the position. Although the balance in the executive does not really reflect the international standing of our class, I think we are ...

I would have thought that the principal of HMS is to simulate a full fleet race that needs to be sailed in multi heats due to r/c constraints. because we work on heats being completed and allowing promotion of boats to the next heat we are providing an oppertunity for any skipper in any heat to ...

Guys,
this discussion was being held within the executive and it was decided to throw it open to the members. This is an open forum and the ideas expressed help quide the executive in the wishes of class members. No, there was never any question about permission. The interest was in their simplified ...

Owners,
Over the past couple of years there have been many discussion on the benefits of moving more boats up and down the heats. There seems to be a growing acceptance that if more boats are moved up or down there is a reduction in the high risk sailing of those skippers on the cusp.
The executive ...

Hi Anders,
like you I have always used cheep standart servos and any sign of a problem I just replace them. Baisclly I treat them as a consumiable. At the last RM Championship I used a brand new digital servo and on 4 ocassions had it lock up freezing the radio etc. later I found out the 36mg radio ...

Just a personal thought for discussion.. There has been much comment about the complexity of the IOM rules. This thread provides the oppertunity to discuss a rule change to simplify measurement. Just set a maximun fin depth. Our class rules suggests our hull design is free apart from length and ...

yep, I agree this is a solution to get the weights off the outside of the mast but at the end of the day will disadvantage the boat with the weight further up the mast. purley a asthetic issue. how important is it? I guess we let the members decide.
Cheers
Greg W