I don't think I expressed that Anti-Doping only applies to Olympic classes.Roy648 wrote:I do not see ... that Reg 21 applies only to Olympic Classes.
I think that as sailing is an Olympic sport ISAF has to have an agreement with WADA http://www.wada-ama.org/enRoy648 wrote:So does this then mean that when IOMICA joins ISAF it only needs to comply with those regulations that suits it?
The IOM ICA - ISAF-RSD Agreement:RoyL wrote:Sixth, and finally, I'm also not exactly sure what you are saying about RSD. I have always argued that while RSD does not currently have properly elected officers, RSD's agreement with IOMICA is still valid. If we directly affiliate with ISAF does that agreement/authority go away? If so, how? If it doesn't go away, then doesn't IOMICA still have to report to RSD?
Whatever the detail of the wording of the IOMICA Constitution and Regulations, it is clear that there will be a class vote on whether to formally go ahead with an application for ISAF recognition of the IOM as an International class.RoyL wrote:I believe that the Executive is required to have a class vote to enter into a binding agreement with ISAF (or anyone else)
Whatever the detail of the wording of the IOMICA - RSD Agreement, it is clear that the agreement can be terminated by one year's notice in writing, or immediately by mutual agreement.it would appear that the agreement between IOMICA and RSD (including all of its requirements that IOMICA seek RSD approval for just about all it does) does stay in place even if IOMICA directly affiliates. Only if ISAF asks that agreement be terminated does it possibly change
ISAF Regulations deal with Member National Authorities - MNAs. Anywhere you see 'national authorities' in an ISAF document you are reading about MNAs. RSD Regulations deal with Division Members - DMs. Anywhere you see 'national authorites' in an RSD document you are almost certainly reading about 'model yachting national authorities' who are DMs. According to RSD documents and IOMICA documents, DMs and IOM NCAs are required to be affiliated to their MNAs.it is still unclear to me whether this provision of Section 26 means r/c sailing or "big boat" national authorities
1) Not a class issue, and not strictly true. The issue is already dealt with in RRS 70.5. The International Jury is really only needed for international events -- continental and world championships. Such a Jury is not needed for national events.Andersen wrote:What are the issues?
1) The ISAF requirement that in order to deny appeals at regattas there must be a international jury present. All regattas run under HMS effectively deny the right to appeal.
2) The issue of an international measurer for the IOM class - this requires training, certification, travel, and per diem charges. Who will pay for this?
3) Anti doping and advertising legislation - does this apply to us too?
4) What happens to the signed agreement between ISAF-RSD and IOMICA?
5) Do the ISAF regulations regarding ISAF appointment of race officials, international juries, international umpires, measurers, and technical delegates for international races apply to radio sailing WC's?
6) Do competitor classifications apply to radio sailing?
7) How are the per hull costs calculated? Average hull cost vs. actual cost.
Hi BarryBarry Fox CAN262 wrote:I suspect that at some point the revised version will be posted on teh web site.
No one wants to get out of voting. On the contrary, we all want to vote; the thing is, we all want to vote with clear, accessible, timely information.Sorry, you don't get out of voting.
I expect Barry is too!I'm sorry that you are unable to post the text here so we can all see it
.No one wants to get out of voting. On the contrary, we all want to vote; the thing is, we all want to vote with clear, accessible, timely information
Val, could you please tell me where you found this information?valpro wrote:As to ISAF regulations and requirements, remember that the ISAF Executive dont make the decisions, they only investigate and report back to the committees affected. They in turn will decide ...